they're calling it the snowden effect, after edward snowden, who released all that nsa information and then sought refuge outside the country. so there's a deep concern that because many feel that this country in part relies on leaks to reveal any wrongdoing or misgivings within our government that this trial alone and some very aggressive prosecutions by the obama administration are going to dry up leaks about u.s. wrongdoing. >> thanks so much for joining us. we appreciate it. >> you bet. >> joining us now is bradley manning's friend. he's the former spokesman for the bradley manning support network. thanks for joining us. as you know, the country has been extremely divided on manning's case. just to give people a sense, a recent poll shows only 13% say manning should not be sentenced to prison at all. more responders agreed that manning was in the wrong, not necessarily a traitor, but they're incredibly divided on the number of years they think he should serve in prison. i'm curious, zach, what your response is from the verdict today. >> well, i think, you know, in light of the trem